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Bear Can

Postby b_kloos88 » Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:45 am

Do you still have to carry one if you have Helen on your intinerary?
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Re: Bear Can

Postby McNeill78 » Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:16 am

Not aware of the requirement for bear canister in GNP at established BC sites. Do need a food sack and 25 feet of rope.
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Re: Bear Can

Postby b_kloos88 » Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:25 am

When I was there 3-4 yrs ago, we were required to carry one at Helen...
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Re: Bear Can

Postby daveparker » Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:38 pm

This would probably be a better question for the back country office in the park, things can change quickly, from day to day when it concerns bears, what might be a clear camp one day could have a strong bear presence the next day.
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Re: Bear Can

Postby b_kloos88 » Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:40 pm

When I was there, there was no bear wire...
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Re: Bear Can

Postby daveparker » Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:00 pm

b_kloos88 wrote:When I was there, there was no bear wire...


What is a "Bear Wire"?
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Re: Bear Can

Postby Selkie » Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:14 pm

I think bear wire is the wire strung between two supports (trees), sometimes with clips or loops to hang food bags from, sometimes you're on your own to figure out how to hang the food pack from the wire.

As I recall, the Sperry Chalet CG has one, in addition to the bear "tree," a pole with arms at the top.

In any event, as you noted, the backcountry office likely knows what is provided at each site.
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Re: Bear Can

Postby daveparker » Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:15 pm

Thanks, even after over 12 years of teaching about bear safety and bear spray I had never heard it referred to as a "bear wire"
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Re: Bear Can

Postby dpratt » Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:30 am

I've never heard that term either, but now I know. I've never actually seen a wire. Typically it is either a vertical pole with hooks at the top, a horizontally mounted pole hung between trees, or sometimes both.
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Re: Bear Can

Postby Ear Mountain » Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:26 am

The "horizontally mounted pole" is actually a sleeve through which a heavy wire is run. The wire is attached to trees. Hence the term Bear Wire. I've heard and used that term for years. Almost all forest campsites in Glacier have a "bear wire."
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Re: Bear Can

Postby dpratt » Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:49 am

Ear Mountain wrote:The "horizontally mounted pole" is actually a sleeve through which a heavy wire is run. The wire is attached to trees. Hence the term Bear Wire. I've heard and used that term for years. Almost all forest campsites in Glacier have a "bear wire."


10-4. Makes sense. I guess I never looked that closely as I flung my food bag over them.
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Re: Bear Can

Postby Jen » Fri Aug 29, 2014 2:52 pm

No wire at KIN or BOU. Just pipe.
I seem to recall MOJ being a wire? Maybe?


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Re: Bear Can

Postby mattB » Fri Aug 29, 2014 3:20 pm

If I remember correctly Sperry backcountry campsites had a wire..

Also, a couple years ago they made us take a bear can when we were camping at Lake Ellen Wilson, they told us that the bear pole was broken, but when we got there it had been repaired..
Maybe it was a similar situation at Helen 3-4 years ago?
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Re: Bear Can

Postby orin » Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:36 pm

Here is a link to a pic of a bear wire in Olympic National Park. http://www.nwhikers.net/forums/download.php?id=14880039260_0477ee8fb8&p=958074 There are pulleys attached to the middle of the horizontal wire. A loop of wire with hooks goes through each pulley. You attach one hook to your food bag and hoist it up and then clip a second hook to a ring at the base of the tree. It is very easy to use and very secure. Obviously it can be set up only where there are reasonably large trees.
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Re: Bear Can

Postby Ear Mountain » Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:45 pm

orin wrote:... There are pulleys attached to the middle of the horizontal wire. A loop of wire with hooks goes through each pulley. You attach ...

I've seen no bear wires in Glacier like that one. In ?Glacier one must bring there own rope. The park service requires 25 feet minimum.
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