Food, toiletries, and garbage storage in backcountry

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Food, toiletries, and garbage storage in backcountry

Postby joshillian » Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:48 pm

I'd be interested on hearing experiences and observations from the community on the best strategies for storage of food, toiletries, and garbage in the backcountry.

Are bear canisters worth the extra weight/expense? Or are there alternatives that you use?

I understand that each of the backcountry sites have either food lockers or bear poles.

The GNP backcountry camping site lists the following related gear:
    A weatherproof food and garbage hanging bag
    25 feet of rope for hanging food and garbage

I'm not entirely clear on the use of bear canisters. When a bear pole is present, do you still just plan on leaving it on the ground (that would seem dumb). Do you bring along another bag to hang it in? Do you just hang your backpack with it in it?
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Re: Food, toiletries, and garbage storage in backcountry

Postby PeteE » Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:37 pm

joshillian wrote:I'd be interested on hearing experiences and observations from the community on the best strategies for storage of food, toiletries, and garbage in the backcountry.

I put all my "smelly stuff", food related, toiletries, etc. in my "food bag" and hang it on the provided, pole, wire, or locker in the campsite.
My food bag is made of "cuben fiber" and is highly mouse resistant as well as sufficiently water resistant for my use. It's been rained on a number of times with no problem.
One of the last things I do after dinner is get all the smelly stuff gathered up and hung/stored.


Scroll down to see "Food Dry Bag" (Not Cuben Fiber anymore)
This dry bag is made with thicker 1.43 oz/sqyd Dyneema Composite Fabric in Blue or Olive.
The thicker material can stand up to the abuse of bear bagging heavy, pointy food items.
A Carabiner is included for hanging the bag from the roll top!

http://www.zpacks.com/accessories/dry_bags.shtml


Are bear canisters worth the extra weight/expense?
Bear canisters are not required in GNP if staying in a BC campsite that has poles, wires, lockers.
Assuming you have an approprite bag to hang your stuff in.

No need UNLESS you have a permit for an off trail back country stay(mountaineering parties sometimes need such permits).
The BC Office may then require a bear canister(s) if they deem it necessary.


Or are there alternatives that you use? See above

I understand that each of the backcountry sites have either food lockers or bear poles. They do. See above

The GNP backcountry camping site lists the following related gear:
    A weatherproof food and garbage hanging bag
    25 feet of rope for hanging food and garbage

I'm odd man out here I suppose. I carry about 40ft of flat, braided, non stretch, limp nylon(I think).
It doesn't tangle, easy to toss over a bear pole using a rocks in a bag for weight.

Here's my 1:13 video on "How to toss your line over the wire the easy way
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https://youtu.be/-TB7IGLO5W8

I'm not entirely clear on the use of bear canisters. When a bear pole is present, do you still just plan on leaving it on the ground (that would seem dumb). Do you bring along another bag to hang it in? Do you just hang your backpack with it in it?

I don't use them so I'll let someone else advise you on their use. I see no need for using bear canisters in GNP.
You might use them next door in the Bob if you go above tree line or don't know how to hang food in the wilderness.




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Re: Food, toiletries, and garbage storage in backcountry

Postby griffin » Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:07 pm

joshillian wrote:
I'm not entirely clear on the use of bear canisters. When a bear pole is present, do you still just plan on leaving it on the ground (that would seem dumb). Do you bring along another bag to hang it in? Do you just hang your backpack with it in it?


We did not bring our bear canisters to Glacier when we visited years ago - it didn't seem worth the extra weight since we would already be carrying rope, etc., and we were staying at sites with bear poles. I have used it in New Hampshire and Vermont when hiking to places that didn't have lockers and we weren't sure the trees would offer sufficient hanging options. Mostly it gets used as a step-stool in my tool room.
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Re: Food, toiletries, and garbage storage in backcountry

Postby joshillian » Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:38 pm

Thank you pete and griffin for the responses :) I'm leaning toward one of those zpacks dry bags -- looks like a compelling alternative to the canister route.
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