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Re: Free 2017 Discovery Pass

Postby Selkie » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:26 pm

Heh heh ... :D Maybe you could collude with like-minded souls?
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Re: Free 2017 Discovery Pass

Postby teapot57 » Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:33 pm

Dang it, Selkie! You are screwing with all my plans! A shuttle makes Akamina actually doable!


Jen, my Pilot fits five! :arrow:
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Re: Free 2017 Discovery Pass

Postby Jen » Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:35 pm

teapot57 wrote:
Dang it, Selkie! You are screwing with all my plans! A shuttle makes Akamina actually doable!


Jen, my Pilot fits five! :arrow:



Yer killin' me, Smalls!
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Re: Free 2017 Discovery Pass

Postby joybird » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:05 am

Jen wrote:
teapot57 wrote:
Jen, my Pilot fits five! :arrow:



Yer killin' me, Smalls!


Tina, I'd hike Akamina with you in heartbeat. And if Jen and Maia came along... :|

Jen, if you end up bailing on your backpack permit (or, BC gods forbid, not getting the one you want) and instead do Akamina Ridge, be sure to stay up in Canada for a few days and hike Carthew-Alderson too. A really spectacular hike, that one.

And, if you and Maia are feeling ambitious, you could tackle the Triple Crown Challenge....https://mywaterton.ca/do/challenge-the-triple-crown-of-waterton/wat267f43550de04b639 I bumped into a couple of people on Carthew-Alderson this past year who were trying to crank it out in three days...which actually seems like something Todd would do (though if it weren't for the ferry and shuttle logistics, he'd probably try to fit it in in two. :wink:).

As for me, I'm less interested in the glory of the Triple Crown than in the fun of seeing Boulder Pass from the Canada side. Akamina was such a striking sight from Boulder Pass and Boulder Peak...really pulled at me.

I think we gals need to take a ride in that Pilot! :arrow:

Hey Selkie! Teapot says there's room for five...(hint, hint). 8)
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Re: Free 2017 Discovery Pass

Postby Selkie » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:19 am

It's been a long time since those dancing green bobbleheads made their appearance on the Chat. :D

I have enough difficulties coordinating my schedule with myself!

Jen, it will feel great to move beyond the Glacier permit mess. The Bob welcomes you with open arms. Even O Canada has some pretty decent places for a backpack.
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Re: Free 2017 Discovery Pass

Postby Jen » Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:48 pm

joybird wrote:
Jen wrote:
teapot57 wrote:
Jen, my Pilot fits five! :arrow:



Yer killin' me, Smalls!


Tina, I'd hike Akamina with you in heartbeat. And if Jen and Maia came along... :|

Jen, if you end up bailing on your backpack permit (or, BC gods forbid, not getting the one you want) and instead do Akamina Ridge, be sure to stay up in Canada for a few days and hike Carthew-Alderson too. A really spectacular hike, that one.

And, if you and Maia are feeling ambitious, you could tackle the Triple Crown Challenge....https://mywaterton.ca/do/challenge-the-triple-crown-of-waterton/wat267f43550de04b639 I bumped into a couple of people on Carthew-Alderson this past year who were trying to crank it out in three days...which actually seems like something Todd would do (though if it weren't for the ferry and shuttle logistics, he'd probably try to fit it in in two. :wink:).

As for me, I'm less interested in the glory of the Triple Crown than in the fun of seeing Boulder Pass from the Canada side. Akamina was such a striking sight from Boulder Pass and Boulder Peak...really pulled at me.

I think we gals need to take a ride in that Pilot! :arrow:

Hey Selkie! Teapot says there's room for five...(hint, hint). 8)


Turning this into a PM..... :)
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Re: Free 2017 Discovery Pass

Postby akamina3 » Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:40 pm

We snowshoed up to Cameron Lake a few times this winter. I fully expect to be able to drive to the Akamina parking lot this summer. We will certainly hike Akamina Ridge again this summer.

Tip: be sure to hike it from Forum Lake up Akamina Ridge down to Wall Lake and out.
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Re: Free 2017 Discovery Pass

Postby Jen » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:20 pm

akamina3 wrote: We will certainly hike Akamina Ridge again this summer.

Tip: be sure to hike it from Forum Lake up Akamina Ridge down to Wall Lake and out.


Thanks! I am really trying to fit this into the plan!
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Re: Free 2017 Discovery Pass

Postby joybird » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:55 am

Akamina or Teapot or others who are familiar with the Canada parks:

What map do you recommend for these Canada parks? My National Geographic map is my go-to map traveling in Glacier, but it doesn't even have the Akamina Ridge trail showing on it. Makes me suspect there are probably other gems up in the Waterton area that may be missing from my map as well...

Also, have you done any backpacking up there? What has your experience been of the BC permit process?
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Re: Free 2017 Discovery Pass

Postby akamina3 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:36 am

Good morning.

Sigh... I have too many maps for too many areas.

For what areas are you interested?

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Re: Free 2017 Discovery Pass

Postby akamina3 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:46 pm

My favourite go-to map for Waterton (including Akamina Ridge) is titled Waterton Lakes National Park 3rd edition. It is published by Gem Trek Publishing. FYI, it uses an odd mixture of feet and/or meters for elevation, and km and/or miles for distance.
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Re: Free 2017 Discovery Pass

Postby teapot57 » Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:25 am

akamina3 wrote:My favourite go-to map for Waterton (including Akamina Ridge) is titled Waterton Lakes National Park 3rd edition. It is published by Gem Trek Publishing. FYI, it uses an odd mixture of feet and/or meters for elevation, and km and/or miles for distance.



I have this same map. It also shows portions of the northern half of Glacier Park, which I find useful.

I was in Waterton this weekend. Will post a trip report soon.
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Re: Free 2017 Discovery Pass

Postby joybird » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:02 am

Thanks for the map recommendations. I will order one.

Looking forward to your trip report, Tina!

Still would love to hear if anyone has done any backpacking there and what their experience of the BC permit process is....
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Re: Free 2017 Discovery Pass

Postby akamina3 » Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:21 pm

Good afternoon, joybird:

Please forgive my confusion about where you are interesting in backpacking...

There are a few backcountry campsites in Waterton, but there are no backcountry trips because the park is too small. I have done every hike in Waterton as a day hike. If you are interested in backcountry camping, you get your permit through the visitor centre.

We live about 25 miles north of Waterton, and 35 miles north of Glacier. We hike in Waterton and Glacier, and backpack in Glacier.

I have spent a lot of time over the provincial boundary into British Columbia -- both in the Akamina-Kishinea Provincial Park and beyond. Few people venture west of Wall Lake. If you want to backpack in the park, you can register and pay a small fee new the turnoff to Wall Lake, or you can register at home and print out your permit.

Although you will be hiking along a pre-Depression era forestry road, it is wild. This valley has the densest concentration of grizzly bears in British Columbia. It is remote. It is wild.

If you head west of the provincial park, you will enter BC forestry. There, you can random camp. You will come very close to the Kintla, but you cannot legally cross the Canada-USA border. There used to be a border crossing close to Polebridge, which made for an interesting loop, but I think it closed during the floods of 1995. Perhaps it will reopen one day if/when Waterton is extended to the Flathead river. Perhaps one day...

Please feel free to let me know if you want more information.
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Re: Free 2017 Discovery Pass

Postby llholmes1948 » Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:05 pm

akamina3 wrote:Good morning.

Sigh... I have too many maps for too many areas.

For what areas are you interested?

Trevor


Trevor,

Scientists have determined that it is not possible to have too many maps :)

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