2020 "Snaps" Around Glacier National Park

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I agree. Second and third of bighorns are winners!! Print them, print them BIG! haha
Find your subject and get low, right? :) I guess the only thing is it looks like the ram with the growth is front and center on the one. Is that correct?

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calicotraveler wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:42 am
You got some great pictures of the bighorns! I particularly like the second and third pictures because of the backgrounds behind them. Thanks for sharing!
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Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:10 pm
I agree. Second and third of bighorns are winners!! Print them, print them BIG! haha
Find your subject and get low, right? :) I guess the only thing is it looks like the ram with the growth is front and center on the one. Is that correct?
Thanks, both of you liked those two pics huh? :)
Thanks. I was just snapping pics, mostly to post here.
Yeah I went "low" because there were about 50 people all around me. I got on my knees so they could see over me 8)

And yes in the 3rd pic the ram with the growth is front and center.
Does that mean I shouldn't print that one? You have something against handicapped big horn sheep? 8)
Just kidding :D

I think I forgot to post this video clip.
The quality of all these clips is bad because all the video was done with my a77m2 with a heavy f2.8/16-50mm zoom lens. :(
That setup is bulky. heavy and awkward to hold in one hand. So it doesn't make very good video.

More goat video
7:45 minutes

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-gzn ... P-1920.mp4
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I had a lot of trouble in Photoshop Elements trying to put together the panographic images I made on Saturday.
The one I'm posting below was made from five portrait oriented images stitched together.
I couldn't make it work in Elements but Lightroom had no trouble making this pano.
I'm glad because it shows what the view of Hidden Lake looks like in better perspective...imo 8)
So I'll go back and try doing some of the others in Lightroom and see how they turn out.

The original jpeg of this image is 10,470 x 5977 pixels and at 240pixels per inch would make a big print ~24x44 inches :mrgreen:
THAT's what I'm talking about!

The nice thing this image is still sharp on my monitor viewed at the pixel level.
Keep in mind this is a vastly shrunken image posted here.

This link is much better for viewing on most monitors although it's still reduced from original
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-bVV ... kW6-X4.jpg

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Stunning pano!!
The mountains are calling and I must go.

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calicotraveler wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:33 pm
Stunning pano!!
Thanks :)

Here is a goat clip I heard about on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/NBCMontana/vid ... 392232322/

That happened just an hour or so after I made this clip about 50-75 yards away at the beginning of the Reynolds mountaineering trail.
The goats in my clip(beginning around 7:00 mark) were undoubtedly the same goats the grizzly bear was after.
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-gzn ... P-1920.mp4

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That is enough to scare the crap out of anyone! Certainly the goats and obviously the person making the video.
Glad you were there earlier and missed that.
The mountains are calling and I must go.

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calicotraveler wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:13 pm
That is enough to scare the crap out of anyone! Certainly the goats and obviously the person making the video.
Glad you were there earlier and missed that.
I understand, but you see...I want to be present when those kind of events occur!
I only hope I have my wits about me and my camera ready to capture the action. 8)

Here are two more panos that didn't work in Elements for some reason but Lightroom handled with no problem.


This 4 frame pano was taken at 5:30PM on the way down the boardwalk. I guess it's "OK" aesthetically. :?
Probably a million like it out there.
I captured what I wanted--a view of the Garden Wall on the left around to just past the GTTS mountain on the right.
Pink flowers on the left balanced? by pink rock on the right.
The ridge off of Pollack MT in the center. Technically, it's sharp and the exposure is balanced.
Viewed at the pixel level one can see individual people on the boardwalk just above the left edge of the pink rock on the right.
All in all it's a good image because I learned from it. 8)

Looks much better here:
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-vLG ... pXG-X4.jpg

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This is just a 2 frame pano taken from the boardwalk. Again, it's just "OK" imo.
I thought the "terraces" on the meadow would show better; they are what caught my eye walking down the boardwalk.
This may have been better done by 1) zooming in, and2) shot with 3 or 4 frames in portrait mode. doing that would have made the terraces more prominent?

It should print ok.

Better here:
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-FPq ... jdS-X4.jpg

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PeteE wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 1:27 pm
I had a lot of trouble in Photoshop Elements trying to put together the panographic images I made on Saturday.
The one I'm posting below was made from five portrait oriented images stitched together.
I couldn't make it work in Elements but Lightroom had no trouble making this pano.
I'm glad because it shows what the view of Hidden Lake looks like in better perspective...imo 8)
So I'll go back and try doing some of the others in Lightroom and see how they turn out.

The original jpeg of this image is 10,470 x 5977 pixels and at 240pixels per inch would make a big print ~24x44 inches :mrgreen:
THAT's what I'm talking about!

The nice thing this image is still sharp on my monitor viewed at the pixel level.
Keep in mind this is a vastly shrunken image posted here.

This link is much better for viewing on most monitors although it's still reduced from original
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-bVV ... kW6-X4.jpg

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I finally decided to bite the bullet and have this image printed at 15 by 30 inches.
The result was better than I could have hoped for.

The important thing is now I know, or at least have a good idea of just how good some of my images will print.
I've had no experience until now with big prints, and not much experience with any size really.
And so as I look back at some of my previous images, I'll have a much better idea about which images will print well and maybe how large(if size is important). Some images don't need to be printed huge like this one.
One casino manager wants this one bigger to display in the casino.
So after talking with the guy at the print shop, I'm going to have done at at 24"x48"if he thinks it'll hold up.
While 24x48 is a little over twice the size as this 15x30(1052 sq in. vs 450 sq in.), I believe it will hold up considering the viewing distance.
So we'll see.

It's a good thing I got this image and some others from Piegan Mt when I did.
The atmosphere around here has gotten hazy/smoky in the past 3-4 days.
There are a couple small fires SW of here that are probably the cause.
Temps have been in the 90's with little/no wind.
And it doesn't look as if there will be much change in the weather in the next 5 days :(
https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.p ... yM_audMGUl
It really sucks. :evil:

Thanks again to all of you who have helped me improve my photography these last few years.
I sincerely appreciate your support.

pete :wink:
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Glad you printed that photo. It is wonderful! Worthy of the wall space in your house and also would be great in a coffee table book of Glacier NP. So glad you are sharing your photos!
The mountains are calling and I must go.

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That image is stunning Pete! You have really made great strides in your photography over the last few years. I look forward to seeing all of your photos and am so happy that you share them with us.

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Carol Lynn wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:38 am
That image is stunning Pete! You have really made great strides in your photography over the last few years. I look forward to seeing all of your photos and am so happy that you share them with us.
calicotraveler wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:21 pm
Glad you printed that photo. It is wonderful! Worthy of the wall space in your house and also would be great in a coffee table book of Glacier NP. So glad you are sharing your photos!
Thank you both for the compliments.
I'm afraid that picture might have been a fluke, "one shot wonder", beginners luck sort of thing.
I went to the photo shop yesterday with some images from the Piegan summit hike that I thought were pretty good.
And they turned out to be crap when examined in detail. We went over them together at the shop.
Odd too because he said the printed image was very good. He knows his stuff too. There's a HUGE pano in the shop he took up in the NW part of the park that includes Thunderbird Mt. He took it in the fall after a snowfall. It's about 16" by 72" and is STUNNING!
The fellow at the photo shop was really nice though. He said he'd help me out with post processing when he comes back from his vacation.

In the meantime here's a few snaps from Saturday.
I wasn't sure if I was going to get a hike in or not.
Thunder and lightening all the way to Logan Pass on the 90 minute drive up there.
Hard rain at times and then no rain.

This first shot was taken about 45 minutes after I got to Logan around 6:30AM.
I hung around at Logan trying to decide what I was going to do.
It was weird. Just a minute or so before I made this shot, there was a HUGE lightening flash off to my right over Heavy Runner Mt. :shock:
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Anyhow, I decided to hike up to Siyeh Pass. Maybe get something from up there like Boulder Creek valley.
The meadows going up to the Piegan-Siyeh trail junction were in full bloom. They look beautiful.
At the time going up, I figured I would shoot them on the way back because I wanted to get to the pass asap.

However, when I got to the Siyeh Creek crossing, the weather to the South/SW over Mahtapi was looking ominous.
I've been up at Siyeh pass in bad conditions including rain, snow, sleet, hail, and lightening. NOT fun.

That plus the flowers in the meadows around the creek were gorgeous--in full bloom.
So I ended up staying by the creek. Took some pictures and then went on back home.
The mosquitoes were BAD everywhere. Everyone was talking about the bugs.

I was quite comfortable. The Picaridin lotion I found last year was working really well.
Never got a bite and the bugs were sometimes in a "cloud" around my face.
Good stuff. Little/no odor and not greasy at all.

So here are some flower "snapshots".
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This is from across the Siyeh creek that you can see in the upper right.
I loved watching all the people crossing the creek, especially the ones who were new to the trail. 8)
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I walked up the trail a little way for this one looking back at Reynolds mt. in the distance and Piegan to the right.
The meadow areas on the way to this point were all blooming like this. :)
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For some reason while walking back these paintbrush caught my eye. This spot was in the shade when I stopped.
Then after I got my tripod set up, the sun came out :(
The mosquitoes were terrible and all around me, but never had one land!
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Not the best of days but better than staying home.
Logan Pass was an absolute zoo at 1:30PM when I drove by.

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That first image is awesome in my opinion! All the wildflower shots are also excellent!
Looks to me like you had a great day of photography.
I would be interested in your camera settings for each image.
I know you want all your images to look tack sharp, but when you’re printing big remember they are being viewed from a distance. Most people don’t stand with their noses inches away from 24X48 pano, so try not to be too critical of your work.
I think it’s a difficult thing to be completely happy with any image we print. I find faults in all my images that I thought I could have done better. We’re our own worst critic, but that’s part of the fun. Just like golf we never have the perfect round, but keep striving to get better. :)

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Thanks Ken for the vote of confidence.
I know what you mean about "viewing distance"---and a couple of shots would look"ok" from arms length if printed large.
That said, they would look better had I done a better job processing them.
I'm still struggling with processing RAW files in Lightroom and Photoshop.
You/anyone can see meta data for anything I post on Smugmug.
Some pics shot with one of my "manual" lenses will not have some data since they can't "talk" to the camera body.
Just go here https://glaciergeezer.smugmug.com/Prest ... /n-jm2WLX/
bring up each image, then over on the left click on "photo details".
All were shot from tripod.

Thanks again!
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Your photographs make me feel happy! I thought your photo of Logan Pass was exceptional. Wonderful colors!
I also really like your wild flower photos....I took one from what looked like just about the same place on the meadow looking back at Reynolds Mt a few years ago. And it still is one of my favorite Glacier photos. And ND is right: when you make enlargements most people are not standing really close to your photo. So they don't notice the little imperfections that we (having taken the photos) know are there. We have a really good photography shop in town (an unusual thing anymore) and they have enlarged a few of my photos. They do a very good job and they are where I go when I want an enlargement.
Keep up the good work! :D
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Late yesterday afternoon I decided to drive up to Logan Pass. The air had cleared out and their were good clouds--at least in the valley.
Unfortunately, no clouds at Logan :(
But, "Colonel Patch" my old billy goat buddy was eating flowers right by the visitor center. :D
I've been seeing Colonel Patch in the logan Pass area for 4-5 years now.
I have a really good picture of him that I'll post---when I find it. :?

If you look closely at his mid section, you'll see a fist size area that's finally growing some hair.
The "patch" used to be more prominent. I think it came from an injury of some sort.
The Colonel is a really massive billy but a pretty mellow old guy in my experience.
He didn't pay much attention to people around him as he munched glacier lilies that were browning off.

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The Colonel wandered off to the other side of the visitor's center so I walked out a half mile or so on the Highline as the sun set.
There were no clouds nearby and just a few on the horizon.

Last bit of light hitting the Garden Wall just this side of the Bishop's Hat.
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Not much color with this sunset :(
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This photo is a bit deceptive in that it was near dark when I got back to the parking lot.
The Colonel had found a nice little spot near the trail head in the stunted trees to bed down for the night 8)
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pete :wink:

PS
One of the Law Enforcement Rangers in the parking lot was "C1", the Supervisor for this area.
He is the LEO who ordered the closure of the Hidden Lake trail. The grizzly bear is still hanging around :(

Not much traffic going down. I made it to the 4 way stop from Logan Pass in 46 minutes. 8)
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