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Re: Current weather?

Postby tibber » Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:02 pm

Ear Mountain wrote:I was able to stand outside with my morning coffee and saw no white caps in my cup.
OMG, THAT is so funny! I'll have to add it to my repertoire of it was so windy in Montana stories. When I was living up above Gt Falls for a year; I wouldn't even brush my hair until I got to work down by the river; there was just no point, ha!

The wind is a brutal memory of my time in Montana... so many stories and living on the east side (mostly Havre) we got a lot of it as it came off the Rockies but especially where you're at. Trying to drive through the snowdrifts on Hiway 2 between E Glacier and Browning was always a scary time. My Pinto and me did end up in a snow rut one time coming out of E Glacier. I went to open my door and it almost blew off.

When I moved to Phx in 1980 and they said it was windy today I laughed hysterically. They had no idea it was barely a breeze by my standards. Now during the monsoon, THAT is windy.
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Re: Current weather?

Postby PeteE » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:36 pm

I learned about the wind in Montana my first day driving in the state in April 2002.
I drove out here with ex g/f in a U-Haul truck pulling my truck on a trailer.
We were in SE MT with snow blow sideways when, not thinking about the wind, I opened driver side door to reclose it securely. The wind caught it and darn near ripped my arm off!

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And yeah...white caps on coffee!!! Love it!
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Re: Current weather?

Postby daveparker » Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:15 am

Honestly, it has not been bad here this year so far, only have about 4 inches on the ground and it has been warm the last couple of days, so melting quickly, last year I had over a 4 and had been stuck twice trying to plow, so I am not complaining, it will indeed be interesting to see what the rest of the winter brings us, we are at just over 4300 feet here, wind has been nothing this year so far.
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Re: Current weather?

Postby PeteE » Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:21 am

Starting to get some snow around here---finally!!

https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.p ... 8981271112


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FXUS65 KMSO 291055
AFDMSO

Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Missoula MT
355 AM MST Sat Dec 29 2018

.DISCUSSION...A continuous fetch of relatively milder and moist
air moving over the area has resulted in widespread snowfall this
morning. Snow-covered roads with slick conditions can be expected
from central Idaho into western Montana until late this morning.
Snow levels will be rising today, so that may cause a few places
over central Idaho and northwest Montana experience a brief period
of freezing rain mixed with snow. A break in the precipitation
will occur by this afternoon and temperatures will warm above
freezing in many valley locations.

A second round of precipitation is expected to occur by this
evening lasting into Sunday. Mountain passes will have moderate to
heavy snow at times while some valley locations will see rain or a
mixture with snowfall, only to see snow by Sunday morning. The
snow will combine with strong westerly winds, which could gust
into the 40-50 mph range causing blowing snow. Valleys will see
much less precipitation and milder conditions initially then will
see a chance for snowfall by Sunday. The winter storm watches for
the higher elevations could be upgraded to warnings later this
morning, so stay tuned! Strong gusty winds near or over 40 mph are
possible across west-central Mondatana to Lemhi County Sunday
morning with the cold front passage.

Snow showers will continue through Sunday evening under a
northerly flow behind the cold front. Little impacts beyond a few
inches of snow in the mountains are expected.

A few dry days are expected Monday through Wednesday under a weak
ridge of high pressure. Depending on cloud cover, the fresh snow
and radiative cooling will aid temps lowering into the single
digits to lower teens each morning. Lower valley fog can also be
expected each morning and may bring travel impacts.

A warmer air mass will begin to raise temps to above normal into
the mid and upper 30s next Thu-Sat. A weak weather disturbance is
epxected to impact northwest Montana late next week day however
confidence is pretty low for any major winter storm or winter impacts.




Winter Storm Watch

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
National Weather Service Missoula MT
719 AM MST Sat Dec 29 2018

MTZ002-301430-
/O.CON.KMSO.WW.Y.0074.000000T0000Z-181230T0000Z/
/O.CON.KMSO.WS.A.0009.181230T0000Z-181230T2100Z/
West Glacier Region-
719 AM MST Sat Dec 29 2018

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 5 PM MST THIS
AFTERNOON...
...WINTER STORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 5 PM MST THIS
AFTERNOON THROUGH SUNDAY AFTERNOON...

* WHAT...Snow expected tonight into Saturday afternoon. Heavy
snow possible Saturday night into Sunday. For tonight into
Saturday, total snow accumulations of 2 to 4 inches expected.
For Saturday night into Sunday, total snow accumulations of 6
to 13 inches possible above 4000 feet, including Marias Pass,
with 2 to 4 inches possible in the lower elevations. Winds
could gust as high as 55 mph in the higher terrain and over
Marias Pass.

* WHERE...Bad Rock Canyon, Essex, Highway 83 Bigfork to Swan
Lake, Marias Pass, and Polebridge.

* WHEN...For the Winter Weather Advisory, from 11 PM this
evening to 5 PM MST Saturday. For the Winter Storm Watch, from
Saturday afternoon through Sunday afternoon.

* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Travel could be very difficult Saturday
evening into Sunday. Blowing snow could significantly reduce
visibility in the higher terrain and over mountain passes.
Gusty winds could bring down tree branches.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A Winter Weather Advisory for snow means periods of snow will
cause primarily travel difficulties. Expect snow covered roads
and limited visibilities, and use caution while driving.

A Winter Storm Watch means there is potential for significant
snow, sleet or ice accumulations that may impact travel. Continue
to monitor the latest forecasts.

The latest road conditions for the state you are calling from can
be obtained by calling 5 1 1.

&&

$$


Winter Weather Advisory

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
National Weather Service Missoula MT
719 AM MST Sat Dec 29 2018

MTZ002-301430-
/O.CON.KMSO.WW.Y.0074.000000T0000Z-181230T0000Z/
/O.CON.KMSO.WS.A.0009.181230T0000Z-181230T2100Z/
West Glacier Region-
719 AM MST Sat Dec 29 2018

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 5 PM MST THIS
AFTERNOON...
...WINTER STORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 5 PM MST THIS
AFTERNOON THROUGH SUNDAY AFTERNOON...

* WHAT...Snow expected tonight into Saturday afternoon. Heavy
snow possible Saturday night into Sunday. For tonight into
Saturday, total snow accumulations of 2 to 4 inches expected.
For Saturday night into Sunday, total snow accumulations of 6
to 13 inches possible above 4000 feet, including Marias Pass,
with 2 to 4 inches possible in the lower elevations. Winds
could gust as high as 55 mph in the higher terrain and over
Marias Pass.

* WHERE...Bad Rock Canyon, Essex, Highway 83 Bigfork to Swan
Lake, Marias Pass, and Polebridge.

* WHEN...For the Winter Weather Advisory, from 11 PM this
evening to 5 PM MST Saturday. For the Winter Storm Watch, from
Saturday afternoon through Sunday afternoon.

* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Travel could be very difficult Saturday
evening into Sunday. Blowing snow could significantly reduce
visibility in the higher terrain and over mountain passes.
Gusty winds could bring down tree branches.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A Winter Weather Advisory for snow means periods of snow will
cause primarily travel difficulties. Expect snow covered roads
and limited visibilities, and use caution while driving.

A Winter Storm Watch means there is potential for significant
snow, sleet or ice accumulations that may impact travel. Continue
to monitor the latest forecasts.

The latest road conditions for the state you are calling from can
be obtained by calling 5 1 1.

&&

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Re: Current weather?

Postby PeteE » Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:39 pm

This is a partial quote from this afternoon's forecast

"...A concern will be as a
colder air mass makes its way over the Continental Divide on
Thursday. This easterly push of air combined with the warm front
could create fairly hefty snow accumulations for northwest
Montana, particularly Flathead valley to Glacier National Park.
The precipitation will become more showery in nature by Friday
with the heaviest precipitation occurring around Clearwater &
northern Idaho county and along the Bitterroot mountains..."


We live in hope 8)
"Snow haters" can go pound sand!

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Re: Current weather?

Postby PeteE » Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:55 am

I say, "Bring it on!" We need the snow.


Winter Weather Advisory

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
National Weather Service Missoula MT
306 AM MST Sun Jan 20 2019

MTZ001>003-211015-
/O.EXT.KMSO.WW.Y.0008.190120T1800Z-190121T1500Z/
Kootenai/Cabinet Region-West Glacier Region-
Flathead/Mission Valleys-
306 AM MST Sun Jan 20 2019

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY NOW IN EFFECT FROM 11 AM THIS MORNING
TO 8 AM MST MONDAY...

* WHAT...Snow expected. Total snow accumulations of 3 to 5 inches.
Local higher amounts are possible. Higher elevations around
Glacier National Park and Marias Pass could see up to 8 inches
of snow.

* WHERE...Northwest Montana

* WHEN...From 11 AM this morning to 8 AM MST Monday.

* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Travel could be very difficult.

&&
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Re: Current weather?

Postby Jay w » Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:01 pm

When you (Glacier) gets snow, we get snow. That said, 3-5" means a nothing to a trace here. Good luck. Btw, it's been chilly here.

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Re: Current weather?

Postby PeteE » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:07 pm

Jay w wrote:When you (Glacier) gets snow, we get snow. That said, 3-5" means a nothing to a trace here. Good luck. Btw, it's been chilly here.

Jay
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Well here it is 9PM and the sidewalk outside my window is still bare :twisted:
And no snow is currently falling as I head for bed and pray for snow overnight.
This really sucks....almost as much as the small blister I got on my middle toe skiing this morning :evil:
Gotta find better boots.

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Re: Current weather?

Postby PeteE » Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:17 am

Another missed call by the weather guessers :(
Not even a dusting of snow overnight.

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Re: Current weather?

Postby Pizza Bob » Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:07 am

I’ll be generous and call it 3 inches in West Glacier last night ... enough to put me on snow blower duty
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Re: Current weather?

Postby Ear Mountain » Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:39 am

PeteE wrote:Another missed call by the weather guessers :(
Not even a dusting of snow overnight.

pete :wink:

3+ inches north of Choteau on the east side. Now the wind is moving the snow into fewer but larger piles.
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Re: Current weather?

Postby dpratt » Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:03 am

Late yesterday and overnight yielded about an inch here. Although, it snowed pretty good off and on throughout the weekend, adding a few inches to our snow pack. We have about 12" or so on the ground. Lots of freeze/thaw cycles so far this winter, otherwise we would probably have 16"-18" of build up. It has left my driveway an uneven mess of ice under the new snow. Makes it tough to keep the snowblower going in a straight line.

It seems that a 0% chance of snow in the forecast yields the biggest dumps here. Last night our localized forecast called for 3"-6" and we got an inch. On Saturday, the forecast predicted 0% chance and we got 3", none of it showing on radar.
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Re: Current weather?

Postby PeteE » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:31 am

Doug, let's see what happens tonight :)

The NWS says 1-3 inches tonight and tomorrow for us in WF.
And 2-4 inches for tonight and tomorrow out your way, and 3-5 tonight and 2-4 tomorrow for Dave since he's at about 5000ft.

I've never had much confidence in the radar "pictures" from the NWS in Missoula.
Too much in the way of terrain interference although they say not. I've seen it snowing like crazy here and not showing on their radar.
I have more faith in the satellite loop images. They run about an hour behind real time, but more accurate regarding where the moisture is.
What do you look at?

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Re: Current weather?

Postby dpratt » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:10 am

PeteE wrote:Doug, let's see what happens tonight :)

The NWS says 1-3 inches tonight and tomorrow for us in WF.
And 2-4 inches for tonight and tomorrow out your way, and 3-5 tonight and 2-4 tomorrow for Dave since he's at about 5000ft.

I've never had much confidence in the radar "pictures" from the NWS in Missoula.
Too much in the way of terrain interference although they say not. I've seen it snowing like crazy here and not showing on their radar.
I have more faith in the satellite loop images. They run about an hour behind real time, but more accurate regarding where the moisture is.
What do you look at?

pete :wink:

https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.p ... H04Zlz-AfJ


I tend to look at the loop as well. It is amazing how often we are getting some form of precip and there is nothing on radar, although in the summer it is typically the opposite. I see a "wall" of rain coming and it goes right over us without a drop hitting the ground. More often than not, I ignore radar and just look at the National Weather Service spot forecast.

We'll probably get a decent amount of snow tonight/tomorrow. My wife has an appointment in town. Without fail, we get snow the occasional day that she has an appointment.
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Re: Current weather?

Postby Jay w » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:22 pm

Traffic was snarfed this morning with the snow storm.

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I'd say we got 1/4 inch. Not enough to shovel, but enough to start the windshield wipers. So rollerskiing is out for a few days and bike rides will be tough with 0F daytime temps. Went for a run tonight.

Still waiting to ski locally. I'd say we have a 1/4 inch on the ground in the woods.

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