Thinking Out Loud for 2020

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Re: Thinking Out Loud for 2020

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al_in_al wrote:
mattB wrote:I wonder how they are going to do the meals at Sperry?
Its pretty tight quarters in the dining room, no way they could maintain social distancing during dinners. Breakfast might work ok.
Maybe they will limit how many people can stay at the lodge at any time, so the dining room won't be too crowded at dinner time?
There was an interview with the superintendent that said they would likely do take-and-go food.

https://hungryhorsenews.com/news/2020/a ... -state-10/
Where would people "go" to eat? Eating in the dorm building seems like a bad idea?
Sitting out on the rocks in the area might be ok, weather permitting..
Maybe they'll set up some temporary seating in the area. But spreading food smells and dropped scraps all around the area doesn't seem like a good idea, and also what about the weather?

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Regarding Sperry where your meals are prepared for you, they could spread out the time for breakfast and dinner over a couple hours, say 0600-0800 and 1700-1900.

Guests and groups would be assigned a time to pick up their meal and a table in the dining hall. People would wait outside until their name is called, then enter, pick up their "boxed meal",drink, etc. go to their table, eat and get the hell out. 8)

Kevin just needs to adopt a policy similar to Bob's Grill in Kill Devil Hills, North Carolina. To wit:

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Bob’s Grill has been a go-to Kill Devil Hills restaurant since 1994. With their plate-sized pancakes, fresh-made hash browns, seafood burritos and Angus beef burgers, it’s easy to see why.

“Eat and Get the Hell Out” developed as our slogan during popular and crowded lunchtimes as founder Bob McCoy would move through the crowds at his Kill Devil Hills restaurant urging lollygagging locals to get a move on so he could seat waiting customers. After you eat, but before you get the hell out, be sure to pick up a Bob’s Grill souvenir featuring their slogan.



When I lived in Norfolk VA, I ate there many times when I went to the Outer Banks on fishing and camping trips.
Good burgers and a fun place to eat. I had a T-shirt I bought in the late 90's that I finally had to toss a few years ago. :mrgreen:
Brindledog, you ever eat there?

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I have never eaten there, but I like their slogan. Growing up (in Laurinburg, NC), we always headed to beaches in the southern part of NC. 4+ hours in a station wagon with 3 kids and no A/C to get to Kill Devil Hills would have pushed my parents over the edge. I'll bet the food is good, though. Love the small town diners.

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PeteE wrote:...eat and get the hell out....:
Reminds me of the mess hall during basic training in 1970.
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Well, my Glacier plans have completely fallen apart.

I canceled my Sperry stay because I didn't want to risk losing the deposit $$ if it isn't appropriate to travel in August.

I also had to cancel my flights on United - they took away the flight from my hometown to Denver and put me on an impossible itinerary with 2 layovers - no thanks. Luckily that means I got a full refund.

I might still make a last minute decision to travel if conditions improve, and there aren't any quarantine orders in place. I still have some hotel reservations active in August. I'm also considering visiting later in September - I've never been in Sept before, so it might be worth it to try this year.

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Our trip had similar problems. Flight changed from 2 layovers to 4 layovers and one of the flights was scheduled to leave before we even arrived at that airport. Impossible schedule. We got our money back. In addition to our lodging which was on the east side of Glacier and isn't open...they cancelled us. The trip is just in the "too hard pile" this year. Will wait till later. :(
The mountains are calling and I must go.

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Montana tourism guidance:

https://commerce.mt.gov/News/PressRelea ... index.html

Total no. of cases in MT is about 2 days' worth of new cases in Florida. Still.
A mental walk-through of the airport experience will suggest how difficult it is to control (sanitize) one's environment. Repeat for a change of planes.

The world quietly goes mad.
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We had a similar flight situation: Our flight schedule was updated so that a connecting flight took off before our incoming flight landed. Normally, when I have the slightest schedule change, I get an e-mail alert. I called and the flight agent said they had so many flight updates that it probably didn't trigger a notice. I generally make my plans so early, and traveling with small kids in tow in the near past (they aren't so small anymore), I would always check on my flights about every two weeks to be sure our seats weren't split up. Lesson learned: I'm checking every few days now.

I talked to someone with Glacier Park Inc (I can't remember what they are called now, maybe Pursuit???) this morning and she said you wouldn't know there was a pandemic with the number of people swarming around. Should be an interesting year for a visit.

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It looks like this trip is a go for September. I snagged the last two nights of the season at Sperry Chalet, and I didn't cancel them, so now I have to go or be out the big bucks!

My first 4 nights are at Lake McDonald Lodge, then 2 at Sperry, and last 2 nights at Village Inn.

1 - Fly in. Maybe walk the McDonald Creek trail in the afternoon.
2 - Sunrise at Logan Pass - wander the trails on the Hidden Lake side - maybe walk to the ridge behind Reynolds, maybe see how far I can get on Oberlin.
3 - Sunrise (or at least early morning) at Sun Point and along the lake - hike the waterfalls and/or the Siyeh Pass trail from Sunrift Gorge.
4 - Another day at Logan Pass - Highline and walk up Haystack?
5 - Sperry Trail to the Chalet, Lincoln Peak for sunset?
6 - Sperry Glacier.
7 - Sperry trail down to Lake McDonald. Hike some towards Lake Ellen Wilson in the morning? Or side-trip to Snyder Lake instead?
8 - Huckleberry Lookout.
9 - Fly home.

So, it will be a much different trip than I originally envisioned (and all my original goals for this year will have to wait), but it should be good to take the time to explore some of the places I've been before instead of knocking out new hikes.

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7 - Sperry trail down to Lake McDonald. Hike some towards Lake Ellen Wilson in the morning? Or side-trip to Snyder Lake instead?
Snyder Lakes would be a waste of time imo.
There's nothing to see on the hike until you get to Lower Snyder Lake, and it's small and not much to look at.
Nothing at Snyder lake, or the trail to it, compares to the views around the Lincoln pass area.
5 - Sperry Trail to the Chalet, Lincoln Peak for sunset?
Maybe hike up a ways on the Sperry Glacier trail to look around and take pictures.
Save Lincoln Peak for last morning?
Or Do Lincoln Peak both days. Go towards Lake Ellen Wilson on 1st day?

I would suggest hiking up to Lincoln Pass in the morning you leave, and then hike up to Lincoln peak.
Lincoln pass is maybe a 30 minute hike from the Chalet. And maybe another 30 minutes to Lincoln peak.
Although there are nice views before you get to the peak.
The great views provide good photographic opportunities with Mt Jackson as a backdrop.

Beaver Chief Falls is a beautiful waterfall.
Taken from part way up to Lincoln peak. Lake Ellen Wilson is upper left.
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And....you might see my old friend "Mr Lincoln" up at Lincoln Pass. 8)

Mt. Jackson behind Mr. Lincoln. Taken right on the trail at the pass.
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PeteE wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:55 pm
Save Lincoln Peak for last morning?
Is Lincoln Peak better in the morning? I have seen several recommendations for sunset there, but I'd probably be willing to head up there twice.

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I'm sure the sunsets are good up there, so maybe the morning trip might be sort of redundant.
Maybe do the morning if the sunset doesn't work out due to weather.
I just thought you'd like Lincoln pass better than Snyder lake.

Other than that, I think you have a good trip planned. Pray for good weather!
Take pics of the new chalet dorm for us :D

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So I’m curious if there are any rumors of people hiking on the east side. So maybe start at Logan and hike into Swiftcurrent Valley (this past summer). Or East Glacier into Two Med. Yeah, I know you’re not supposed to do that but it seems like enforcement was missing this year.

The other thing is I wonder of bears behavior changed due to having run of the park? Also, it seems like a good time to redo the MG road, but on the other hand, if you make the road better, people will come. Maybe make it unmaintained gravel. :D

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The LEO guys were aware of the possibility of people doing what you mentioned. I talked to them about it. They did catch a few "trespassers" :D
I never did get an update on the MG road construction progress.
I'll ask at park HQ next time I'm out there...IF I can remember 8)
Not much change in bear behavior that I'm aware of. The park was too quick to close trails imo.
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