Spring, Summer,, Fall, & Winter 2015-16 Around GNP

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Re: Spring, Summer,, Fall, & Winter 2015-16 Around GNP

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Thanks everyone. :mrgreen:
Another day older and deeper in debt.... as the Tenn. Ernie Ford song 16 Tons line goes 8)

I've not been out much at all lately so it was good to get out for a while.

I'm fascinated with Clyde's feathers. When you're very close to him you can see the myriad of different types of feathers he has.
Everything from the big long primary wing feathers to the tiny, wispy hair like feathers on his head---all "coal black".
As Teapot noted Clyde has a slight purplish "sheen" which is evident when the light is right.

Brings up a fascinating subject I've done some reading on.
Humans have only 3 color dimension vision. Most mammals only 2 color dimension vision.
Ravens like many birds see in 4 color dimensions. They have four different "cones" for color reception in their retina.
Red, green, blue, and ultraviolet. Therefore ravens can see in color hues that humans cannot possibly see or even imagine!!
We have no clue how birds actually see not only their world, but how they see each other.

Ravens all look alike to us humans. However, we can only speculate how they look to each other.
This extra color dimension allows birds to see and identify each other very easily.
This has been demonstrated in species of birds like ravens where both sexes look alike.

I could go on and on talking about these fascinating birds but I have to go to work for a little while! :)

I'll try to get out for some "non raven" reporting as soon as I can.

Thanks again for everyone's compliments.

Many Happy Birthdays to those who have one coming!!

pete :wink:

Here is Clyde a couple weeks ago when there was a fine misty rain falling. I love the effect of the tiny droplets on his fine feathers.
Bad weather doesn't seem to bother them too much.

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Re: Spring, Summer,, Fall, & Winter 2015-16 Around GNP

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Pete,
Happy Birthday!!! Glad to hear you got to get out to the park...awesome pictures!
It was good seeing you in Whitefish recently!:-)
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liketohike wrote:Pete,
Happy Birthday!!! Glad to hear you got to get out to the park...awesome pictures!
It was good seeing you in Whitefish recently!:-)
Thanks B on the pictures. :) Clyde makes for a wonderful "subject"---sometimes 8)

And yes, that was a fun evening of pizza and conversation with you, FuzzySideDown, MattB and his family from Kalispell.
I hope I have that right.

I believe we could have gotten more people but the chat went down shortly after MattB put the post up.
A suggestion...
Next time I would put a notice like that where it can be seen by anyone. Members don't always log in.

I'm glad the weather was good for you while here. Y'all got in during a relatively good "window".
Sucks now. 40's today. Snow is nasty and melting here in the valley.
Up high still looks ok though.

Again, good to finally get up with y'all and thanks for the pizza!!

pete :wink:
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The sky was mostly cloudy and not great for pictures. The lake was almost, but not quite mirror like.
I don't know what's going on at lake McDonald Lodge. I've noticed a big increase in vehicles parked there related to whatever construction/renovation is going on.

After I make the turn at the lodge and head back up the hill on the exit side of the lot...
Look closely in my dirty outside driver's side mirror at about minute 3:00 8)

Runs about 7 minutes. First couple minutes are Lake McDonald, the rest are the ravens.



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PeteE wrote:A suggestion...
Next time I would put a notice like that where it can be seen by anyone. Members don't always log in.
pete :wink:
We prefer to keep specific meetup dates and times available only to registered members. Thanks for understanding.
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Jen wrote:
PeteE wrote:A suggestion...
Next time I would put a notice like that where it can be seen by anyone. Members don't always log in.
pete :wink:
We prefer to keep specific meetup dates and times available only to registered members. Thanks for understanding.

The GNP chat is a "secret society" eh? 8)
God forbid a non member might want to meet current members....and maybe join and contribute to the chat.
I'm not sure I do understand, but I'll comply.

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Re: Spring, Summer,, Fall, & Winter 2015-16 Around GNP

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happy bday pete. look forward to hiking w you next summer.
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scott-atl wrote:happy bday pete. look forward to hiking w you next summer.
Thanks Scott. Let me know when you will be out here.
We can try Piegan's summit again.
Maybe we'll make up a secret code to share date we'll meet? 8)

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Happy Birthday Pete!

Does this mean you have now graduated from "Old Geezer" to "Even Older Geezer"? :D

One comment about restricting meet ups and dates to only logged in members, a policy I
strongly endorse. It is desirable, from a security perspective, that the entire internet
does not know when chatters are gathered and possibly away from their homes.
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Pizza Bob wrote:Happy Birthday Pete!

Does this mean you have now graduated from "Old Geezer" to "Even Older Geezer"? :D

One comment about restricting meet ups and dates to only logged in members, a policy I
strongly endorse. It is desirable, from a security perspective, that the entire internet
does not know when chatters are gathered and possibly away from their homes.
LOL!!!!!!
No, I think "Even Older Geezer", maybe "Senior Geezer" status should be reserved for 70+ 8)
And as a "geezer", I keep remembering how life was growing up carefree in the 50's and 60's...plus my memory isn't what it used to be.
So yeah, I forgot that we have, sadly, in my lifetime, become a paranoid society.
And even sadder still the paranoia is justified all too often.

So yes, as I said above, I'll comply with the policy.

pete :wink:
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Pizza Bob wrote: One comment about restricting meet ups and dates to only logged in members, a policy I
strongly endorse. It is desirable, from a security perspective, that the entire internet
does not know when chatters are gathered and possibly away from their homes.
Exactly.
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PeteE wrote: The GNP chat is a "secret society" eh? 8)
God forbid a non member might want to meet current members....and maybe join and contribute to the chat.
I'm not sure I do understand, but I'll comply.

pete :wink:
If a non member wanted to maybe join and contribute to the chat they would then be able to see the content that is "secret".
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Wow, slap my mouth. I'm logged in.

Pete, I can't believe how close you get to that damn parrot.

How do I find the home address of a chat member?

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Jay w wrote: How do I find the home address of a chat member?
Facial recognition on posted pictures to identify potential names, matched with hiking
as an interest, will probably get you close to a name and from there an address.

This is not to suggest refraining from the delightful stories and photos here, but to do
so in a prudent manner.
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PeteE wrote:
Pizza Bob wrote:Happy Birthday Pete!

Does this mean you have now graduated from "Old Geezer" to "Even Older Geezer"? :D

One comment about restricting meet ups and dates to only logged in members, a policy I
strongly endorse. It is desirable, from a security perspective, that the entire internet
does not know when chatters are gathered and possibly away from their homes.
July Guy wrote:
Pizza Bob wrote: One comment about restricting meet ups and dates to only logged in members, a policy I
strongly endorse. It is desirable, from a security perspective, that the entire internet
does not know when chatters are gathered and possibly away from their homes.
Exactly.
Jen wrote:
PeteE wrote:A suggestion...
Next time I would put a notice like that where it can be seen by anyone. Members don't always log in.
pete :wink:
We prefer to keep specific meetup dates and times available only to registered members. Thanks for understanding.
LOL!!!!!!
No, I think "Even Older Geezer", maybe "Senior Geezer" status should be reserved for 70+ 8)
And as a "geezer", I keep remembering how life was growing up carefree in the 50's and 60's...plus my memory isn't what it used to be.
So yeah, I forgot that we have, sadly, in my lifetime, become a paranoid society.
And even sadder still the paranoia is justified all too often.

So yes, as I said above, I'll comply with the policy.
Emphasis added for this post


pete :wink:
All this "lecturing" I've gotten on "internet security/safety" triggered a memory of something I thought was quite stupid at the time.
And now it is especially so in light of the rationale I've been given regarding the subject.-- to wit
Don't post sensitive information in the public chat rooms. Use the rooms for members only

Riiiiiiiiiiiiighttt 8)

I'm sure it'll be deleted; it's been up in public(also been publicly available on Photobucket ) since October 8th 2014...but until then
The picture below from:

http://www.glacier.nationalparkschat.co ... 6&start=90
contains enough information for me(or anyone with an IQ greater than their age) to work out the recipient's name and address...
As well as the zip code of the sender. A little reading in the topic would reveal part of the sender's name(I already knew)---which I did because I noticed the sender's postmark is a town very close to my cousin's home in Virginia.

So spare me from lectures on internet security. I got lectures on security from the best in the business many years ago, before many of you were born:
The infamous NSA

You may want to write this down:

There is no such thing as privacy on the internet, especially on social media sites like this one, or God forbid--Facebook.


Have a nice day :mrgreen:

Your ever security conscious old Geezer 8)

pete :wink:
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