Walk-in Status

[zozeppelin]

Similar to the 'trail status' initiative, I'm taking a stab at recreating the walk-in status.

In theory, the new rec.gov website would already have this covered, but I think there is a disconnect with actual status (winter, closed for bears, etc). There also is a limitation on how many walk-in sites are actually available (walk-in yes/no is the granularity), but there is no fix for that.

So here we go ... feedback always appreciated. This will go through a couple revisions to better emulate the original page (icons, colors) and sync with site status (which is currently down). I've also had a thought to create a 'best available' by area and # of days for the next 3 days.

[zozeppelin]

Glacier National Park Backcountry Campground Status
July 15 at 12:10AM

Campground Name	15	16	17	18	19	20		Campground Name	15	16	17	18	19	20
ADA - Adair	1	1	2	1	1	1		AKO - Akokala Lake	1	2	1	1	1	1
ARR - Arrow Lake	1	1	1	1	1	1		ATL - Atlantic Creek	■	1	1	1	1	1
BEA - Beaver Lake Campground ^	■	■	■	1	■	■		BOU - Boulder Pass	1	1	1	2	2	1
BOW - Bowman Lake Head	■	1	1	1	1	1		BRO - Brown Pass	■	1	1	■	1	1
CAM - Camas Lake	■	■	■	■	1	1		COA - Coal Creek Campground	1	2	1	1	■	■
COB - Cobalt Lake	■	■	1	1	1	1		COS - Cosley Lake	■	■	1	■	1	1
CRA - Cracker Lake	■	■	■	■	■	■		ELF - Elizabeth Lake Foot	■	■	■	■	1	1
ELH - Elizabeth Lake Head	■	■	■	1	■	1		ELL - Lake Ellen Wilson	■	1	1	■	■	1
FIF - Fifty Mountain	■	■	1	■	1	1		FLA - Flattop	1	1	■	1	1	1
FRA - Lake Francis	■	■	1	1	1	■		GAB - Belly River Ranger Station	■	■	■	1	1	■
GLF - Glenns Lake Foot	1	1	1	1	1	1		GLH - Glenns Lake Head	■	■	1	1	1	1
GOA - Waterton Lake Overlook	1	3	2	3	5	5		GRA - Grace Lake	1	2	1	2	2	2
GRN - Granite Park Chalet	■	■	■	■	1	■		GUN - Gunsight Lake	■	■	1	1	1	1
HAR - Harrison Lake Campground	1	1	1	1	2	1		HAW - Hawksbill Campground	■	2	■	■	■	2
HEL - Helen Lake	■	1	1	1	1	1		HOL - Hole in the Wall	▲	▲	▲	▲	▲	▲
ISA - Lake Isabel	1	1	1	1	1	1		JAN - Lake Janet	1	1	1	1	1	1
KIN - Kintla Lake Head	1	1	■	1	1	2		KOO - Kootenai Lake	■	2	1	1	1	1
LIN - Lincoln Lake	■	1	1	1	1	1		LNY - Lower Nyack Campground	1	2	2	2	1	2
LOF - Logging Lake Foot	1	1	1	2	1	1		LQU - Lower Quartz Lake	1	2	1	1	1	2
MAN - Many Glacier Campground	■	■	■	■	1	■		MCD - Lake McDonald Campground	■	1	1	1	1	1
MOJ - Mokowanis Junction	1	3	■	1	1	1		MOL - Mokowanis Lake	1	1	■	1	1	1
MOR - Morning Star Lake	1	1	■	1	2	1		NON - No Name Lake	■	1	1	1	1	1
OLC - Ole Creek Campground	1	2	2	2	2	1		OLD - Old Man Lake	■	1	1	1	1	■
OLL - Ole Lake Campground	1	2	1	2	2	2		OTO - Otokomi Lake	■	1	1	1	1	1
PAR - Park Creek Campground	1	1	1	1	1	2		POI - Poia Lake	■	1	1	1	■	■
QUA - Quartz Lake	1	1	1	1	1	1		REF - Red Eagle Lake Foot	1	2	■	■	1	1
REH - Red Eagle Lake Head	■	1	1	■	■	1		REY - Reynolds Creek	1	1	2	2	1	1
ROU - Round Lake Campground	1	2	1	2	1	1		SLI - Slide Lake Campground	1	1	1	1	1	1
SNY - Snyder Lake	■	■	1	1	1	1		SPE - Sperry	■	1	■	1	1	■
STO - Stoney Indian Lake	■	2	■	■	■	1		UPK - Upper Kintla Lake	1	1	1	■	■	1
UPN - Upper Nyack Campground ^	1	■	1	1	1	1		UPP - Upper Park Creek Campground	1	1	1	1	1	1
UPT - Upper Two Medicine Lake	■	1	1	1	1	1		WAT - Waterton River	1	2	1	1	3	1

*	NO Wood Fires; Fragile Area
@	One night camping during July, August and September
!	Special camping conditions exist here; inquire at Backcountry Desk
^	Winter - campground 100% snow covered, requires winter camping skill/equipment. Special precautions required for proper food/garbage storage. Use limited to one party and maximum of 6 persons/night
*	Pit toilet not serviceable in winter conditions
■	Campground Full
▲	Campground Overbooked
■	Camground Closed
▲	Campground is temporarily not available for overnight camping due to sensitive environmental conditions

[paul]

This is nice. Do you know if the old walkin page is gone for good? It really is useful to see the status of all camps on one page.

[teapot57]

This is really nice, and seems like a lot of work! How often are you planning to update the info?

[zozeppelin]

Glacier National Park Backcountry Campground Status
June 13 at 11:08PM

Campground Name	13	14	15	16	17	18		Campground Name	13	14	15	16	17	18
ADA - Adair	1	1	3	3	3	3		AKO - Akokala Lake	1	1	2	2	2	1
ARR - Arrow Lake ^	1	1	1	■	1	1		ATL - Atlantic Creek	1	1	2	1	1	1
BEA - Beaver Lake Campground ^	1	1	1	1	1	1		BOU - Boulder Pass ^	1	1	1	1	1	1
BOW - Bowman Lake Head	1	1	2	1	2	2		BRO - Brown Pass	▲	▲	▲	▲	▲	▲
CAM - Camas Lake ^	1	1	1	1	1	1		COA - Coal Creek Campground ^	1	1	1	1	1	1
COB - Cobalt Lake ^	1	1	1	1	1	1		COS - Cosley Lake	1	1	1	1	1	1
CRA - Cracker Lake	■	■	1	1	1	1		ELF - Elizabeth Lake Foot	1	1	1	1	1	1
ELH - Elizabeth Lake Head	1	1	1	■	1	1		ELL - Lake Ellen Wilson	1	1	3	2	3	3
FIF - Fifty Mountain ^	■	■	1	1	1	1		FLA - Flattop	1	1	2	2	2	2
FRA - Lake Francis	1	1	1	1	1	1		GAB - Belly River Ranger Station	1	1	1	1	1	1
GLF - Glenns Lake Foot	1	1	1	1	1	1		GLH - Glenns Lake Head	1	1	2	1	1	1
GOA - Waterton Lake Overlook	▲	▲	▲	▲	▲	▲		GRA - Grace Lake	1	1	2	2	2	2
GRN - Granite Park Chalet	1	1	3	3	3	3		GUN - Gunsight Lake	1	1	5	4	5	5
HAR - Harrison Lake Campground	1	1	2	2	2	2		HAW - Hawksbill Campground	1	1	2	1	1	2
HEL - Helen Lake ^	1	1	1	1	1	1		HOL - Hole in the Wall	▲	▲	▲	▲	▲	▲
ISA - Lake Isabel ^	1	1	1	1	1	1		JAN - Lake Janet	1	1	1	1	1	1
KIN - Kintla Lake Head	1	1	3	1	2	3		KOO - Kootenai Lake ^	1	1	1	■	■	■
LIN - Lincoln Lake ^	1	1	1	1	1	1		LNY - Lower Nyack Campground ^	1	1	1	1	1	1
LOF - Logging Lake Foot	1	1	2	2	1	2		LOF - Logging Lake Foot	1	1	2	2	1	2
LQU - Lower Quartz Lake	▲	▲	▲	▲	▲	▲		MAN - Many Glacier Campground	1	1	1	1	1	1
MCD - Lake McDonald Campground	1	1	1	1	1	1		MOJ - Mokowanis Junction	1	1	4	3	4	2
MOL - Mokowanis Lake	1	1	2	1	2	2		MOR - Morning Star Lake ^	1	1	2	2	2	2
NON - No Name Lake ^	1	1	1	2	2	2		OLC - Ole Creek Campground ^	■	1	2	2	2	2
OLD - Oldman Lake ^	1	1	1	■	1	1		OLD - Oldman Lake ^	1	1	1	■	1	1
OLL - Ole Lake Campground	1	1	2	2	1	2		OTO - Otokomi Lake ^	1	1	1	■	1	1
PAR - Park Creek Campground	1	1	2	2	2	2		POI - Poia Lake ^	1	1	1	1	1	1
QUA - Quartz Lake	1	1	2	1	1	1		REF - Red Eagle Lake Foot	1	1	1	1	1	1
REH - Red Eagle Lake Head	1	1	2	1	■	■		REY - Reynolds Creek	1	1	1	1	1	1
ROU - Round Lake Campground ^	1	1	2	2	2	2		SLI - Slide Lake ^	1	■	2	1	2	2
SLI - Slide Lake ^	1	■	2	1	2	2		SNY - Snyder Lake	1	1	1	1	1	2
SPE - Sperry	1	1	2	1	1	2		STO - Stoney Indian Lake	▲	▲	▲	▲	▲	▲
UPK - Upper Kintla Lake	1	1	3	1	1	1		UPN - Upper Nyack Campground ^	1	1	1	1	1	1
UPP - Upper Park Creek Campground ^	1	1	2	2	2	1		UPT - Upper Two Medicine Lake ^	1	1	1	■	■	1
WAT - Waterton River	1	1	1	3	3	4

*	NO Wood Fires; Fragile Area
@	One night camping during July, August and September
!	Special camping conditions exist here; inquire at Backcountry Desk
^	Winter - campground 100% snow covered, requires winter camping skill/equipment. Special precautions required for proper food/garbage storage. Use limited to one party and maximum of 6 persons/night
*	Pit toilet not serviceable in winter conditions
■	Campground Full
▲	Campground Overbooked
■	Camground Closed
▲	Campground is temporarily not available for overnight camping due to sensitive environmental conditions

[zozeppelin]

This is really nice, and seems like a lot of work! How often are you planning to update the info?

Don't worry, it's 'automated', so most of the work is done. The thought is to use this as a proof of concept and then deploy on this website with automatic updates.

[paul]

So is the link on the chat page going to be on demand? I mean we hit the link and it will pull the live data from rec.com?

[teapot57]

Thanks, zoezepplin! That will be great.

HOL and STO are already in yellow!!!

[zozeppelin]

So is the link on the chat page going to be on demand? I mean we hit the link and it will pull the live data from rec.com?

That’s the idea (once a day refresh to start, presumably after 5 PM for an insight into the next day for people going early for permits) - but both Rec.gov and glacier trail status as there seems to be a disconnect between the two regarding winter status, closure, etc - presumably Rec.gov isn’t keeping up with current conditions. You can see that when comparing the two tables, ignoring the 2 day offset, the first table has only rec.gov and the second has also included nps status from the trails page.

That said, all depends on feedback / interest.

[zozeppelin]

edit: just going to keep the one at the top current until we are able to get the scripts running.

[paul]

So is the link on the chat page going to be on demand? I mean we hit the link and it will pull the live data from rec.com?

That’s the idea (once a day refresh to start, presumably after 5 PM for an insight into the next day for people going early for permits) - but both Rec.gov and glacier trail status as there seems to be a disconnect between the two regarding winter status, closure, etc - presumably Rec.gov isn’t keeping up with current conditions. You can see that when comparing the two tables, ignoring the 2 day offset, the first table has only rec.gov and the second has also included nps status from the trails page.

That said, all depends on feedback / interest.

Thanks, there's definitely interest on my part. It's a pain to check walkin status using rec.gov as it is.

[teapot57]

Fifty Mountain is open for the season. If you were wanting to pick it up in July, it’s wide open for now.

[sbosecker]

edit: just going to keep the one at the top current until we are able to get the scripts running.

zozeppelin,

Thank you for doing this!

Best regards
Scott

[teapot57]

Thanks for keeping this updated. It looks like GLH is open as of 7/27, which is good to see.

[liketohike]

Zozeppelin,
I appreciate your efforts. Thanks for keeping this updated!